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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Value $377 online at voiceacting.com
Includes: Tote bag, 210 page Voice2007 Event Workbook, 2 pens More than 18 hours of coaching from: Rodney Saulsberry, Connie Terwilliger, Frank Frederick, MJ Lallo, James Alburger, Penny Abshire, Bettye Zoller, Gregory Best, DB Cooper, Chris Wagner, Linda Weinrib, Don LaFontaine, and others. The most comprehensive collection of top US Voiceover Coaches in one place!
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Julie Williams "Voice-Over Chocolate" julie@voice-overs.com www.voiceoverchocolate.com www.voice-overs.com Currently on National spots for Eyeglass World; Narrations for US Steel, Point of Sale VO for Gutter Grip-- playing soon at a Home Depot near you! Julie will be heard nationally on a tribute to Ruth Bell Graham in December. |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Houston, TX
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Voice2007-The Seminars: A Review by Dave DeHart
Don’t let the single DVD you receive fool you! The 18+ hours of information presented is a goldmine of voiceover wisdom! (The nifty tote bag and enormous workbook are just icing on the cake.) Whether you’re a newbie or a seasoned voiceover pro, you will find a ton of tips, tricks and expert advice that can help propel your career to the next level. My concerns that the seminars, originally presented live on stage in Las Vegas, wouldn’t translate well for “ears only” were quickly dismissed. It’s just as entertaining as it is informative. Space won’t allow me to comment on every presentation but here are a few specifics: Wow, talk about motivation! Rodney Saulsberry’s personal, real-life examples presented in “A Positive Approach to Succeeding in Voiceovers” will reinforce and re-energize your commitment to a career behind the mic. This guy is dynamite! Frank Frederick makes it very clear… there’s much more to voiceover than talent alone. His “Love Notes – Marketing & Branding for Voiceover Talent” seminar pulls back the curtain to reveal the secrets necessary to take your career to the next level. Can’t wait to get the book! Connie Terwilliger says, “Until you know where you are you can’t affect change.” And her “Self Evaluation” seminar will really help you put the spotlight on your strengths and weaknesses. The information Connie shares is the next best thing to one-on-one coaching. I loved it! The only negative I could find (and this is being pretty picky) some of the seminar audio was a little distorted in places… but that didn’t detract from the overall content one bit. So, what do I really think about VOICE2007-The Seminars? After taking this 18 hour ride with many of the biggest and best VO talent in our industry you’ll be way ahead of the crowd. For what amounts to an average cost of about $20 per hour, I seriously doubt there could be a bigger bang for the buck than what Frank, James and Penny have assembled for this groundbreaking masterpiece of voiceover know-how. If you’ve ever agonized over trying to decide your best bet to improve your voiceover chops… especially if you have a limited budget… start with VOICE 2007 – The Seminars! This package is truly the “Swiss army knife” of voiceover training and motivation! Last edited by Dave DeHart; 11-19-2007 at 05:24 PM. |
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Jon Morss
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Antelope, CA
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Well, I tried to make this shorter, but I just could not seem to hit the delete button. So, I guess you have to endure this lengthy babble of my review of the Voice2007 DVD.
The Voice2007 DVD is a power pack of some of the most incredibly talented VO artists in the business. The DVD includes the audio from 16 (over 18 hours) of the most useful VO panels I have ever heard. Being at Voice2007 would have been one of the greatest experiences a VO person could possibly have. But, if you missed it, like I did, the Voice2007 DVD is the next best thing. In some cases, it has an advantage in that you can listen to the speakers over and over rather than just sitting on the panel for the 1 to 2 hours and try to soak in what was presented. So, who can you hear on Voice2007 DVD? Here is a short list: Rodney Saulsberry, Connie Terwilliger, Frank Frederick , Mathais Dunn - AFTRA, Alex Torrenegra Voice123, Linda Weinrib (Tribute to Lenny Weintrib), Chris Wagner, James Alburger, Penny Abshire, Don LaFontaine, Gregory Best, Bettye Zoller, MJ Lallo, DB Cooper, Bob Bergen and many more along with 200 VO artist ranging from Wanna Bees to Seasoned Pros. Here is a break down of some my favorite highlights from the DVD: Rodney Saulsberry Panel: Rodney is not just a powerful voice in the VO business, he a powerful person with such an incredibly positive view of, not only the VO business , but on life in general. If anyone has read Rodney's book Step Up to the Mic then you know what kind of impact a positive approach to the VO business can have. One of my favorite parts of Rodney's panel was his story of landing the part of Carl the Boxer on Taxi. Rodney's techniques and positive words have inspired me to pursue my own VO career with a more positive approach as well as sign up for his Commercial Intensive Tele-class. Great stuff. Connie Terwilliger Panel: This was a great eye opening session. Connie emphasizes, especially for those just thinking to get in the VO business (Wanna Bees), to perform a Self Evaluation to ensure you are both headed in the right direction as well as if you are right for the business of VO. Connie covered everything from a basic understanding of the business, Marketing, business sense, demos, technology to the costs involved in taking part in the VO business. One thing that she really focuses on is for a VO person to "Find the people who what to buy what you have to sell". Connie suggests listening to everything you hear from TV spots, radio, cartoons, and anything where someone is being paid to speak and analyze if you have a voice that will fit in. This was another great example of the great knowledge that was shared at Voice2007. Frank Frederick -- Love Notes This was a session where I wished I had attended Voice2007. Frank has a great approach to banding yourself in this day of the Internet Voice. His "Love Notes" technique is just terrific. It really gets you to think about how to market and brand yourself to attract the most clients. "Love Notes thrive on the intensity and spark of passion" is something that Frank drives home. If clients are not attracted to what you have to sell, then you cannot expect them to be knocking on your door to offer you work. After listening to this session, I have discovered I have plenty of homework ahead of me in developing on my own personal "Love Notes." Linda Weinrib - A Discussion of VO and Tribute to Lenny Weinrib: Now this was an extra special treat for me. I grew up watching the Dick Van Dyke show, H.R. PufnStuff, The Munster's and may of the other incredible shows that Lennie had a hand, or rather, a voice in. These shows and the tremendously talented actors that played in them inspired me to pursue my own VO career. And to hear his daughter Linda discuss his career and how Lennie was as a father was extra special. The tribute to Lennie was well put together and in great taste. At Voice2007 there were reels shown of Lenny's work, which would have been great to see. The scene from the Dick Van Dyke show where Lennie played the part of Jackie Brew-Brew and to hear Linda describe how Lennie got the part and had only 4 hours to read, rehearse and record the scene was priceless. It just shows what a true genius that Lennie was. Linda in her own right is a very talented actor and surly has inherited the skills from her father as well as developed her own. Also, her son and daughter (not on the DVD) are in the VO business voicing various Anime characters, which my own daughter and I have watched. That makes 3 generations of some of the most talented VO people in the business. And to hear how they are known as the "One Take Weinrib's" based on their ability to voice a spot perfectly in one take is just pain amazing. I wish could tap into that gene pool. After listening to this session, I have placed a number of Lennie products on my holiday wish list including the Dick Van Dyke Show episodes with Lennie in them. Truly awe inspiring. DB Cooper -- Infinite Ammo: Wow!!! This was a real treat. DB is just incredibly active in the VO business. And, considering her experience in the Video Game Business, this was very interesting to me. To hear her play bits from various Games and then analyze the voices gave me some insight into what the Game companies are really looking for. If you are thinking of getting into this part of the business, DB highly suggests playing, listening and analyzing a number of video games so you can hear how things are done. This is certainly an area I would like to tap into and after listing to this panel I still have plenty of things to work on. Hot Seat Demos: This was a really great session for those of us trying to figure out how to make our demos the best they can be. And, my hat is certainly off for those brave souls that offered their own demos to be torn apart be some of the best VO talent in the business. After listening to this, I am really rethinking how my own demo is put together. And one thing that I found very cool about this session was what Jackie stated "we are here to take your demo from ordinary to extraordinary." This was a very informative session and another one that I wish I were there to attend. Professional Panel: This would have been best described as the 'Incredible Professional Panel'. The panel included Jackie Baskow, Greg Allen, Frank Frederick, Connie Terwilliger, Bob Bergen, Jenny Abshire, James Alburger, Michael Rhys and many others. The great VO masters offered answers to what is happening in the VO business and describe their own VO stories. One of my favorite pieces from this was the story Bob Bergen told about his first experience with the "Magic Fourth Beep" during a voice replacement session for the movie "American Ninja 3 (not 1, not 2, but 3)". Bob is a great storyteller. Another great part of this panel was when Michael Rhys explained how he ended up being an Englishman voicing in Japan. This was very interesting indeed. And, the best part was listening to James Alburger and Penny Abshire introduce each other. They certain have a special relationship and deep admiration for each other. They are truly one of a kind. A couple of things there were not on the DVD that I wish had been were Pat Fraley's session and Bob Bergen's One Man Show. Bob's show would have been great to hear despite his suffering from a cold. Maybe they could offer these on a special extended DVD. Well, I could go on for a very long about all of the incredibly fascinating information that is to be heard on the Voice2007 DVD, but being this is just a review I must keep it short. This DVD is just packed with some of the best that the VO business has to offer. It's like getting 16 individual classes from some of the greats in the business. If you missed Voice2007 or you are looking for a refresher from the convention, then the Voice2007 DVD is the perfect thing for you. Also, if you are looking for some real insight into the VO business then this DVD is just for you. Wanna Bees and Seasoned pros will all get something from listening to this DVD. I highly recommend it. Go get it!!! Thanks for reading, Jon Morss |
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jsgilbert
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Francisco, California
Posts: 148
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I was lucky enough to be chosen to write a review on the Voice 2007 program that is currently available on DVD, with workbook, tote bag and assorted specialty imprint items. I promised to have some sort of review to you by Thanksgiving and here, just under the wire is what I have to say. I believe we all know that I am a curmudgeon and in general I am skeptical about many of the people out there who make a living selling anything to voice talent. Be that as it may, there are many things that talent need to know and should know to make any go of it in this business. While I did not listen to all of the over 18 hours of audio content on the DVD, I made it a point to listen to enough so that I could intelligently offer a rational opinion regarding this product, which is currently for sale at voiceacting.com http://www.voiceacting.com/products/index_Page320.htm for the sum of $377.
First, a little of what I did and didn’t like about the product in general. The product consists of a workbook, which has contributions from the various speakers and oddly placed advertisements, and ranges from very useful information to “well, I guess they had to put something in there.” The DVD mostly consists of MP3 audio files recorded at the Voice 2007 convention. The producers of this product graciously trust talent in that the MP3 files are all downloadable and can be played on IPOD’s and other portable devices and so forth. I expect that they may lose some sales from unscrupulous talent who decide to copy and distribute the files to friends. Personally, I find this type of action deplorable and If any talent reading this plan on doing it, I warn you that it will come back to haunt you and in the next lifetime you will be reincarnated as a dung beetle. I’m not a very “audio learning” centric individual despite my being both an audio producer and a voice talent and I wish that this had been videotaped rather than audio taped. There were numerous references to video materials, pictures, posture of talent, etc. I also wonder what they did to make the recordings because there is significant distortion throughout many of the presentations and in some cases, it was bad enough to make me have to stop listening at rather short intervals and/or risk severe headaches. The other thing I didn’t care for was the use by many of the presenters of terms such as “lucrative” or “bags of money” and so forth. To the presenters who resisted the temptation to dangle the money carrot in front of the crowd’s eyes, I salute you. In fact, I think all voiceover products should carry a warning much like that on a pack of cigarettes; “warning - While this looks like a fun way to make a living, the truth is that most voice actors are broke and constantly have to borrow money and will never be able to pay it back. Attempts to make it in this business will in 98% of all cases be met with such financial embarrassment that you will be forced to change your name and move.” Or some such words to that effect. So now that I have that out of the way, let’s get on to the meat and potatoes. The speakers had a difficult task. The audience is made up of a few experienced talent, some who think they’re experienced, some who are completely clueless, a few people left over from the Hawaiian Tropic Bathing Suit Competition and accidentally wandered into Voice 2007, some brand new talent and so forth. The audience was international in composition and considering how few absolute truths there are in this business, it can be difficult to stay relevant to such a diverse audience. Many of the speakers managed to keep most everyone engaged. If you are currently a SAG/AFTRA actor with decent representation, who has done this for a few years, you may find as much of 85 – 90% of this basic information. Of course, if you’ve strictly been performing commercial work for a decade, you will probably find the discussions on the gaming industry very interesting. If you tend toward announcer, then you might like hearing some of the discussions regarding “real person sounding” or character work. So what’s the conclusion? I probably wouldn’t have gone out and bought this product, but having made a commitment to review it, I’m glad I did and was glad I listened. There were a few tricks this old dog thinks he might have picked up. There’s also some basic things that it’s often easy to forget about and it’s nice to be reminded every now and again. I should also mention that I paid a lot more money than $377 to learn many of the things discussed in this program. If I were entering the industry now, I would probably be well served purchasing this program, but the real gift is in listening to it, taking notes and then seeing what other industry professionals say on any given subject. I didn’t necessarily agree with what all of the presenters had to say on everything; and every now and again I was left scratching my head. But voiceover is a lot like the Chinese proverb of the 6 blind men and the elephant. One reached out and touched the elephant’s tail and declared it was a rope; another touched the elephant’s ear and said it was a fan; yet another leaned against the elephant and stated it was a wall, and so on. Nobody has or has had the same experience climbing the v.o. ladder. There are so many ways one can approach their craft and a limitless source of information. As with anything, a little caveat emptor will go a long way. Most of the presenters have their own personal doctrine and have books, workshops and other items they sell. There are also lots of people out there who offer services to v.o. talent who were not present at the Voice 2007 program. Keep a frim grasp on the n ow and a fimer grasp on your wallet and realize that this business is a business. It’s ok to have fun, but remember that a business has certain requirements. The program features talks from Rodney Saulsbury, Connie Terwilliger, Frank Frederick, Chris Wagner, James Auburger, Penny Abshire, Gregory Best, Bettye Zoller, MJ Lallo, DB cooper, Linda Weinrib and a special guest presentation by Don LaFontaine, AFTRA and a very interesting couple of panel discussions which include some talent agents and others. I don’t know all of the people speaking personally. Some by reputation and some are newer names to me. Here’s a brief rundown on what I thought of some of the individual presentations. MJ Lallo performed voices for me on Mattel’s Mother Gooses Farm (Interactive Educational Program) back in 1996. I was Seniro Audio Producer and it wona ton of awards. I thought she was brilliant back then and she’s only gotten better. Connie Terwilliger ran down a lot of the opportunities and gave a nice overview of the industry. I’ve read James Auberger’s book and had some familiarity with him. He and his partner Penny had some interesting and important things to say that would appeal to a wide variety of voice actors. Don LaFontaine teaches us that even a king must occasionally defend his crown. DB Cooper and Pat Fraley have been speaking at the Game Developers Conferences. Chris Wagner actually offered some pretty interesting information regarding web sites and web marketing. Frank Frederick seems to be a super nice guy and should get some props for just putting up with me chiding him. I look forward to listening to some of the other presenters and I’m happy to answer some specific questions where it makes sense. I’ll make it a point to drop back in and give some updates as I have them |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Dave, Jon, and J.S.,
Thanks very much for such detailed reviews. Sounds like this is one DVD that should be in my collection. J.S. - as always, a realistic assessment. It's good to know the plusses and minuses before plunking down the moolah... Voice 2008 also looks like a "must-do"... heck, it's right in my backyard next year! It'd be great to meet some of you all in person. Hope your Thanksgiving was great, Joe J Thomas Joe J. Thomas Acting Portfolio |
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Administrator
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 81
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Hey guys!
I need to keep my general-release review short so it can be more easily surveyed via other media, but I wanted to give you the unabridged review here on the forums. There is a TON of stuff to cover. Cheers! ----------------------------------- Some of you will understand what I mean when I refer to "VO Hunger." If you're constantly looking for voice-related learning content to saturate your mind - and satiate your appetite - this would be equivalent to a 24-hour, personally-catered, all-you-can-eat buffet.*** When I first received the Voice2007 bag (with pens, workbook, and DVD), I loaded up the DVD, copied all the MP3 files into iTunes, and synced the entire conference onto my iPod. I listened for over three weeks in many environments at various hours throughout the day. I listened on the train, on a bus, in a restaurant, at a coffee shop, on the street, in an airport, on an airplane, under a tree, in a library, in the rain, in the fog, and in a lightning storm, in a park, on the beach, at a hotel, on a bed, on a sofa, at my desk, at the store, and in or around about twenty other strange places. Eighteen hours of content takes awhile to get through, and I can tell you that, with the convenience of taking these seminars anywhere, you're going to be very happy. In my long quest to fully understand the journey of an aspiring voice talent, I've come across hundreds of resources. Lucky for me, I encountered the experienced, qualified, and professional voice over educators first. In today's world, it appears everyone wants to tell you how you can "Earn extra income with your voice." Just as often, there are hundreds of offers for so-called "professional demo production" in 24 hours or less. When you're buckling under the weight of all these choices, it can be a challenge to identify those resources which are truly worthwhile in building or growing your voiceover career. So where does Voice2007 fit in? With all my experience "resource-hunting" online and off, I can say without a doubt that the Voice2007 package is one of the best in existence. Even without being at the conference in person, the seminar recordings and the workbook gave me the sort of concise, usable information that I would be hard-pressed to aggregate myself from workshops, books, websites, and coaching sessions. This recorded conference series is unique - you're getting insight from professionals who actually know what they're talking about, and you're getting it in a compressed, effective package. Each contributor brings a different piece of the puzzle to the event, eventually producing a complete voice over picture. Here's the play-by-play:
Many seminars included a reasonable level of audience (performance) participation, and most learning seminars included segments where the audience was either encouraged to ask questions or where they simply starting shouting them out. Some presenters will mention their instruction courses or other paid services during seminars. All contributors are qualified VO talent and experts within their respective specialty areas. Even still, don't feel pressed to go out and spend thousands upon thousands of dollars until you have asked plenty of questions, talked with fellow VO talent, and - if I may borrow from Connie Terwilliger - assessed your level of experience. Having said that, James Alburger's book is a staple in the industry. Buy it! If I could ask for anything more of this product, it would be the PowerPoint presentation slides from the presenters. The work booklet is invaluable when it comes to following along with "the group" at the conference, however, I feel the experience would be even greater if we could see the slides from the lecturers, either digitally or in a printed form. The choice to place all content on a data DVD may result in some challenges for people with stubborn computers, although I understand why data DVD was chosen over standard data CD. When this becomes available for sale online, I hope to see a clear explanation for those who might be expecting CDs instead. In addition to providing general conference details, the "splash" web pages provided with the DVD are helpful in instructing the user on how to manipulate the large audio files for playback on MP3 devices and plain audio CDs. I definitely appreciated the attendee testimonials available via these pages; they are a testament to the quality of the Voice2007 program. While skimming through the files on the CD, I noticed there were two video files composed of Las Vegas news reports on Voice2007. If the links to these files were available on the splash pages, I must be blind, because I couldn't find them anywhere. The extra PDF files (which can be found via the web pages included on the disk) are worth reading. As I close up this review, you should take away the following point: The individuals who created Voice2007 are GOOD PEOPLE, the people who presented at Voice2007 are GOOD PEOPLE, and, best as I can tell, the attendees of Voice2007 are GOOD PEOPLE. It's not often one has an opportunity to be surrounded by such a vast collection of fun, good-natured individuals interested in VO. Since you can't go back in time to meet all these wonderful people, your next best option is to grab the recordings and go to town with them! If there's anything that sums up my evaluation of Voice2007, it's this: I'll see you at Voice2008! ***After just re-listening to the testimonials, I realized I used a metaphor similar to the one recited by Melissa Reizian Frank from the Voice2007 testimonials. Apologies Melissa! Living in Las Vegas, the idea came to me straight away. When I initially wrote to the introduction to the review, it was before I had even made it past hour 10, let alone the testimonials! Last edited by Bret Brizzee; 11-23-2007 at 04:12 PM. |
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